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Friday, April 3, 2015

Reason Magazine: Nick Gillespie- 'Penn Jillette on Indiana RFRA: 'You're Not Being Forced to Have Gay Sex'

Source:Reason Magazine- Comedian Penn Jillette, on CNN Tonight with Don Lemon, talking about Indiana's gay discrimination law.
Source:The New Democrat

"These people are not being asked to engage in gay sex or even endorse gay sex. They're being asked to sell flowers and cake to people….Now, I'm a libertarian and an atheist, so I'm kind of fighting myself on this. I don't like the government involved with telling people what to do and I certainly want people to have religious freedom–because the only way that people who don't have religion are going to have freedom is if people who do have religion have freedom. But all the same, we have to be careful we don't get crazy in the hypotheticals. We are not talking about forcing people to engage in gay sex or even endorse gay sex. We're asking that maybe they can treat people the same as other people and that does not seem unreasonable. It's OK, I guess, but goofy to be against gays, but it's not OK to be against people who simply want to…use your services as a business. "

From Penn Jillette at Reason Magazine

Source:CNN- Comedian Penn Jillette, on CNN Tonight with Don Lemon, talking about Indiana's gay discrimination law.
"CNN's Don Lemon,  Alliance Defending Freedom's Kristen Waggoner, ACLU's Rita Sklar and Comedian Penn Jillette discuss Indiana's Religious Freedom Restoration Act."

From CNN

This whole so-called religious freedom law debate which is really what this isn’t about, but about creating some new right for people who are let's face it, are homophobic and hate homosexuality, is not about expanding religious freedom, or protecting religious freedom. It’s about creating a right for people who are so against homosexuality to the point they view gays as second-class citizens and not deserving of the same rights as straits, to discriminate against people simply because they are gay.

When business’s go public and are open for the public, they are exactly that. Whose the public? It’s all of us and all of our races, ethnicities, and yes even sexualities. If you don’t want to serve the public, then open a private club and have it open for private membership only. And with your club you could only allow Christians, or Anglos, or Caucasians in general, or men, or straits of whoever you want your club to be open to, to serve. But if you run a store or a restaurant or some other business that is open to the public, then that is what you are. And you can’t deny service to people simply because you don’t like their race, color, ethnicity, or sexuality.

Protecting gays equal access to America is not about creating new rights for people. Since they already have the same rights as straits anyway. Fundamentalists Christian men aren’t being told that they have to bang men, or go to jail! And fundamentalist Christian women aren’t being told they have to bang women, or go to jail! If they want to continue to believe that gay sex and homosexuality is immoral and should be illegal, but people banging their cousins, or aunts, or uncles is perfectly legitimate and if anything should be expanded, then they are more than welcome to continue to believe in those things. And be looked down upon as the ignorant idiots that they are. But a public business can’t deny access to people simple because of who they are.

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